Camber Savage 14" Hi hats cymbals. Made in Germany. Remind me of Paiste rudes or Pearl wild hats that I have had in the past. They are in players shape. No issues that I can tell. Ask questions before BIN. No international sales. All sales final. Sold as is. No returns. Sales only in the Continental USA. Shipping only out west and west coast could be more than shipping charge listed. Thanks for viewing and God bless.